A few years ago if you’d met Michal it would have been easy to think she was one of those women who ‘had it all.’ A huge job - Head of Global Culture at Tik Tok, (I know!), the mother of 4 beautiful children, a wonderful husband plus, a wardrobe full of designer clothes.

But inside she was struggling – really struggling with terrible anxiety. She’d been in therapy for 15 years and going over the past - while informative was not helping this awful feeling. But then she began to study Jewish wisdoms and everything changed. Michal learned so much she’s written a book called What Would You Do If You Weren’t Afraid.

Michal is so open, honest and generous with her thoughts in this conversation. She tells us what life is really like at those great big tech companies and how some of the biggest leaders who she still coaches have just the same insecurities as us all.

Michal was told several times not to be herself. But thankfully she didn’t listen. She says it’s only by putting aside fear and being true self- you find your place in the world. 

You can find Michal’s work at: ⁠https://www.michaloshman.com/⁠

And just in case you’ve forgotten (how very dare you?)  you can find me and my books at ⁠www.elliebarkerwrites.com⁠ x