Part 1.

Reverend Clive Jennings was brought up in a council house and he says he wears his roots like a badge. Although he loved drama and wanted to be an actor, he joined the police and worked in the Firearms Department, VIP Protection, The Special Branch and the Counter Terrorist Branch too. But then life changed for Clive and he became a Vicar in the wonderful town of Clevedon.

Clive has experienced so much and has seen all the different sides of life. But he believes  - whether through his work in the police or as a Vicar - it’s all about connection. This is what we're all looking for, whoever we are. We discuss so much in this conversation - from firearms, bomb scene management, protecting VIPs to love, loneliness and where we should go when we're feeling lost. There’s so much to think about in this conversation - and I know how busy many of you are - I divided it into two episodes.  There is so much at the moment about the dark side of life, it's easy to forget there is so much warmth and love too - and that there are people like Clive. He’s kind, thoughtful and so generous with his thoughts. He believes sometimes, without realising we can all lose the joy in our lives and joy is what we all need, as long as we allow it in. Well, this conversation was joyous to record. I hope you enjoy meeting Clive as much as I did.